Job Interview!!!!
Gwytherinn | January 19, 2008 | 1:39 amI’ve got a job interview with a human rights organization. It’s a data entry job, but it is pointed in the right direction.
Got the call today and jumped at the “202″ area code. I thought the person had asked for “Irene” and let the person go with what may have been slight annoyance at it not being a call in response to my resume. Luckily he called back and I’m REALLY happy that rather than cut the call short with another “wrong number” I asked him if the person he was looking for lives in nassau or suffolk, as maybe he had the wrong area code! It came out that it was for a job interview. JOB interview?
Tuesday interview. This has motivated me to try to submit my resume to more places tomorrow.
Went to an Ani DiFranco concert Thursday. More tomorrow.
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Congrats on landing an interview, and I hope it goes
Tiv | January 19, 2008 | 2:51 pmCongrats on landing an interview, and I hope it goes well–whatever that might mean
202? That's DC. Is the job in DC or just
Pookasydi | January 20, 2008 | 9:19 am202? That’s DC. Is the job in DC or just the headquarters?
Let me know how the interview goes!
Thanks Tiv!! Interesting, I was thinking 212. They do have a
Gwytherinn | January 20, 2008 | 10:44 amThanks Tiv!!
Interesting, I was thinking 212. They do have a DC branch but the job will be in NYC. The interview will be with one in person and another one in phone conference from DC. Thought that was kind of interesting.
You excited? Oh, and you have a good excuse to
Pookasydi | January 20, 2008 | 2:10 pmYou excited? Oh, and you have a good excuse to wear some pointy shoes!
Waiting waiting waiting! How'd it go? And I think you're
Tiv | January 23, 2008 | 4:19 pmWaiting waiting waiting! How’d it go?
And I think you’re a good person to ask…could you recommend any books about women in extremist cultures? The Library of Congress did a report called (from memory, so I might be wrong): “The New Face of Extremism: Who is the new Shahida?” It talked about Chechen and Palestinian female suicide bombers specifically, but also generally about what gets women involved in extremism. So…yeah. Light, easy reading, much like the others on your list.
I think it went well! I think it was kind
Gwytherinn | January 24, 2008 | 7:03 pmI think it went well! I think it was kind of obvious that I don’t exactly want to be there forever, and am looking at that as a foot in the door kind of thing.. which may be a mark against me… I skirted around the “what attracts you to this position” in a way that didn’t really seem satisfactory to them. But regardless, still think it went well in my opinion.
They said they’d be making a decision by the end of next week.
I will have to get back to you on the book suggestions… I will look through my library..
I know there is a book I had been meaning to get a long time ago that also is specifically about female suicide bombers…. I will have to look it up. Read a memoir about a woman growing up in a polygamous Mormon family compound, if you consider that extremist.
I love finding books.. I will be back!
All right... I'll admit that I'm a little hung up
Gwytherinn | January 28, 2008 | 11:58 amAll right… I’ll admit that I’m a little hung up on what your definition of extremism might be.
So far I have books that deal with:
Women growing up in certain types of Muslim and Mormon cultures, and living during the cultural revolution in China.
Almost all are memoirs at the moment. So I’m not sure if I’m on target or not but I feel like I’m not. =/
That's great! I've seen so many of them that
Tiv | January 28, 2008 | 1:46 pmThat’s great! I’ve seen so many of them that I don’t know how to separate the wheat from the chaff.
And extremism would be, at its heart, any religious culture that advocates violence in order to advance its agenda. So polygamy isn’t so much extremist in nature as it is fundamental (by my definitions), but those who (for example) bomb abortion clinics or trade centers would be.
There’s a pretty sizable gap in knowledge, because most of the women in those cultures do not have a voice until they leave them (if they leave them), and there isn’t a wealth of knowledge. We know about the men–they’re on videotapes, in meetings, espousing their interpretation of their god’s word, but…who makes the food for the meetings? Washes the clothes? Tends the children?
And THANK YOU for the Kuchinich-Hustler link…which led to a “Huckabee affiliated with a group that thinks contraception is abortion” story…which got Nunny to change his mind about who to vote for in the Florida primary. Yes, he’s a registered Republican. Yes, I’m trying to get him to change to Independent…
(Warning: Some of these links are extensive reviews. I am
Gwytherinn | January 29, 2008 | 1:30 am(Warning: Some of these links are extensive reviews. I am weird, I don’t like to read too many in depth reviews of a book before I buy it - I usually read them afterwards because I like to hear what other people have to say, and I feel like something is lost if I read to much about it already! Maybe you’re like that too, just wanted to put in a warning.)
Ok… I’ll admit I think the pool of books just narrowed considerably…. I have two so far. That would be Army of Roses: Inside the World of Palestinian Suicide Bombers by Barbara Victor. This is one we had stocked in the store a long long time ago, and I had always planned to buy. One day I decided to do so and it was gone!! (cry) So I went to look it up and found it was out of print… much dismay. You can buy used copies, but I never pursued it.
I actually almost picked up this last week at The Strand. Still debating whether I should have. Women and the Contested State: Religion, Violence, and Agency in South and Southeast Asia. It’s an academic book, and it’s expensive because it comes from a University press. I’m regretting not buying it at the moment, but when I was flipping through it I couldn’t really justify the purchase.
Still looking. I am coming up with a lot of books of women in say, violent situations due to governments and politics. I read Emma’s War by Deborah Scroggins, that was very good. It has a lot of background on the situation of Sudan and is both a journalistic account of the things going on at the time as well as being a biography of Emma McCune, an aid worker in the area. I only wish I could be so fearless. There’s also the recently released memoir by Cathy Wilkerson about being in the Weather Underground called Flying Close to the Sun: My Life and Times as a Weatherman. I really want to read that at some point, and after reading the publisher’s blurb it actually looks like it is more along the lines of what you are looking for, sans the religion. (Also, a friend works as an editor for that press…. who knows, she may have edited it!!)
Ok, I will throw these in for good measure as well. I love reading memoirs by women who lived through the Chinese Communist Revolution, I’ve read a couple of very good ones. I know it doesn’t really fit, though perhaps if you replaced religion with government, maybe. They were all very much a part of things and participated in the Cultural Revolution in various instrumental ways.
(Ok, I’ll admit I’m being lazy and linking you to amazon.com now, despite Red always telling me not to!)
Red Azalea by Anchee Min - The book that started it all for me.
A Leaf in the Bitter Wind by Ting-Xing Ye
Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China by Jung Chang - Monumental 600 page tome of three generations, her grandmother, mother and she. While this was a very good book, it’s also VERY emotionally draining and exhausting. It is tragedy after tragedy. It seriously never stops. Oh, and according to this review here: “It wasn’t just a popular success appealing mainly to women (as is sometimes sniffily assumed), it was also acclaimed by literary heavyweights such as Martin Amis and JG Ballard.” (I wrote an incredibly long, fragmented rant about the devaluation of “women’s” books, women authors and readers one day that centered on the treatment of this book.)
I guess lately I’m just learning to be more wary of where I get my information from, and I know the first book is disputed on amazon.com by some reviewers and says she really doesn’t have any clue about Palestinian culture. I used to just take the things I read in books at face value regardless of the source, and I’m learning this isn’t exactly the best thing to do. So I’m also wary of passing things on to you that aren’t truly “representative” as the people who are experiencing them would say they are. I know, this is a huge tangent. I just wanted to express that.
I am blinking after editing this comment and realized the whole thing is pretty much a huge tangent. It started as two paragraphs. O.o
And I’m so glad you’re getting something out of the links I bookmark!!
Thank you! That helps considerably...and my boss is a
Tiv | January 29, 2008 | 4:39 amThank you! That helps considerably…and my boss is a part-time prof, so if I wanted a university-ish book for less, she’s ordered them for other people before at a huge discount. That second one sounds almost exactly like what I’m looking for as a reference tool, and the rest sound like the kind of background stuff I could really get a lot out of. Have you considered being a librarian?
And thanks again. The little bookstore down the street
Tiv | January 29, 2008 | 3:38 pmAnd thanks again. The little bookstore down the street has ordered Red Azalea (if it was that important to you, I want to read it!), Army of Roses, and Emma’s War.
"The little bookstore" =
Gwytherinn | February 1, 2008 | 7:57 pm“The little bookstore” = <3 Interesting though, maybe I was mistaken about Army of Roses being out of print. And now you have to give me a book to read! Speaking of which, you probably are more up on the news than I am and know about it already, but I saw this today. Ugh.
Two women blow up Iraqi market
“Involving women in fighting violates cultural taboos in Iraq, but the U.S. military has warned that al-Qaida in Iraq is recruiting females and youths to stage suicide attacks because militants are increasingly desperate to thwart stepped-up security measures.”
I had a ramble about the other asymmetric methods they've
Tiv | February 1, 2008 | 10:41 pmI had a ramble about the other asymmetric methods they’ve used, but the list got too long.
“The little bookstore” is a used bookstore, so they found Army of Roses at an affiliated used store–they’re linked with other stores and order back & forth, plus they’ll order new things on request. And, they’re across the street and up the block, easy easy walking distance.
A book for you to read? While we’re on this topic…”Black Hawk Down” by Mark Bowden makes some really good points about cultural differences and how that affects those involved in battle. “Thunder Run” by David Zucchino is about the battalion my brother was with during the initial invasion in Baghdad. I’m re-reading “John Adams” by David McCullough, and the most-used book in our entire house is Martha Stewart’s Homekeeping Handbook. It’s fascinating. There’s not a home-related issue yet I haven’t found an answer to in there.
"I had a ramble about the other asymmetric methods they’ve
Gwytherinn | February 1, 2008 | 11:29 pm“I had a ramble about the other asymmetric methods they’ve used, but the list got too long.”
Huh?? I think you were talking about the news article. And now you’ve piqued my curiosity. ;x
I was talking about the news article... -putting bombs in cars
Tiv | February 1, 2008 | 11:47 pmI was talking about the news article…
-putting bombs in cars with children in them, because those cars don’t get searched at checkpoints, and then setting off the bomb remotely as it’s in a crowded part of the checkpoint
-putting bombs on pack animals (in more remote areas) and remotely detonating them
-kidnapping and killing people, then booby-trapping their bodies and dumping them in the street
-detonating one bomb, waiting for rescue personnel to arrive, and then detonating a second, larger bomb
Those are the ones that turn my stomach (the rescue personnel one is effective, but it hurts me to think about RESCUERS dying). Dying for a cause isn’t new, and numerous religions and cultures embrace suicide deaths of honor. Not many are okay with using children or the mentally challenged.
This has nothing to do with your job interview, does it? Have you heard back? Sent out more resumes?
Ugh..... that is some really crazy stuff. Asymmetry is being
Gwytherinn | February 2, 2008 | 1:20 amUgh….. that is some really crazy stuff. Asymmetry is being used in terms of… an irregular tactic in that it breaches taboos?
Actually, it kind of could have something to do with job hunting, which I’ll get to, but regardless this has been a really interesting exchange!
Haven’t heard back, no news is good news to me at the moment. I applied to two more jobs. (Would have been 3, but I am under-qualified for the 3rd. Job hunting continues tomorrow.) Both are positions that are pretty much titled “project assistant.” I found the first one, which is actually for a new project being implemented by a think tank and is called “Targeting Violent Extremism.” I will admit that the organization seems kind of shady to me, and they are not transparent at all in their dealings.
BUT… the job really sounded like heaven to me. It’s pretty much aiding the project in any way, shape or form. I like having a variety of things to do. As well, I like doing the organizational type of work that sets things in motion. I really like to know how things work from the inside out. Basically, I like being everywhere at once, knowing everything that is going on and being able to fix problems and help things move along. So I think it would be really cool if I got a chance at that job.
And as much as this has never been quite an unknown thing to me, I think I really just put some important pieces together about the kind of job I’d really love to do.
You can still apply for jobs you think you're under-qualified
Tiv | February 2, 2008 | 9:07 amYou can still apply for jobs you think you’re under-qualified for! Someone might decide to give you a chance, or you might have the attitude they’re looking for, or they might be willing to train the right person.
And I suspect you’re more qualified for certain things than you think you are.
Nunny’s done a lot of hiring. He likes to say that the “qualifications” part of the description is what they HOPE to get, but not what they’re expecting to find.
(I’ve got some links at the bottom of my most recent livejournal entry re: women & terrorists that you might find interesting.)
I don't know how you feel about the UN, but
Tiv | February 7, 2008 | 5:08 amI don’t know how you feel about the UN, but I was looking and saw this:
https://jobs.un.org/Galaxy/Release3/vacancy/Display_Vac_List.aspx?lang=1200&OCCG=23